n this episode, I talk to Sacha about the whole journey: from flogging faulty leather jackets on a market stall as a teenager, to running Sankeys during Manchester's gang years, to the night a customer lost his life at Warehouse Project and the decision that followed, to speak out publicly rather than issue a two-line statement. We get into the COVID years, when Sacha took Matt Hancock to court over the 10pm curfew and "substantial meal" rule, and won both. And we talk about what it's really like watching a friend, Andy Burnham, become Prime Minister: the pride, the pressure, and the abuse his family have taken along the way. It's a conversation about building something from nothing, knowing when to sell, and why he thinks Manchester is having a moment it'll still be talking about in twenty years.